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Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 19, 2011 8:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: One more thing about the 72 release

"Before you gripe about losing your ability to stream this stuff. STOP!!!"

That's right. Why would you complain when it does no good, and no one really wants to hear it anyway.

"Sorry to sound like an old man but.."

Hey I'm not sure about a_w, but I am old so if I sound like an old man...Oh well.

"This release is not a bad thing in and of itself."

I must agree. After all, the "Core Four", GDP and Rhino all have mouths to feed. Do you you really want to deny them their champagne and caviar?

"maintain a "tape list" with a typewriter and a photocopier... Then mail the goddamn thing through the US mail and wait weeks for your return package. Hoping that the trader on the other end was grading things the same way you were and the tapes weren't 4th gen CRAP"

But wasn't it kind of enjoyable. And if the tape was "CRAP", you could find someone else with a better one and go through the process one more time. I must say I miss the days of sending out multiple mailers every week. And BTW, I did not get into trading until 2002.


"Things have only gotten better, easier and more widely shared!"

Electronic technology has definitely allowed some of the older show recordings to be greatly improved. And downloading, both legal and otherwise, has provided the "instant gratification" many have come to feel is their inalienable right.

"We will never go back!!!!!!!"

On this point, I beg to differ. As more and more desirable shows become "official releases" I think you may see the comeback of the bubble mailer.

"This is opening a door, not shutting one."

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 19, 2011 9:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

Y'all have missed the most important reason not to buy the E 72 box set: It will destroy our best trump card with our kids. See, here's how conversations go in my house:

Kid: Hey, look! The fifth installment of this video game series is out, and it's only $50!

Me: Ya gotta be kidding. You have enough video games.

Kid: And look at that! A whole set of Warhammer Blabbedy-blah Ork Fighters, for only $90!

Me: You don't need more Ork Fighters, and certainly not at that cost.

Kid: Yeah, but look how many Grateful Dead shows you have! Must be thousands of dollars.

Me: AHA! But most of them are FREE!!!

See, that's my trump card. Spending $450 in one go for 60 discs would totally WRECK that argument. And then we'd go broke buying little tiny paintable orks or whatever the hobby of the week might be. All because of GDP and Rhino. (Hey, Bob! I've gotta send MY kid to college, too!)



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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 20, 2011 4:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

That's a whole other angle I haven't considered AR. After finally agreeing to a Wii 13 months ago, it's amazing how quickly those little plastic game boxes have multiplied. They have even tried to get away with the forbidden games. Kids, imagine that. Even after the first time when it was collective punishment (so Roman) of the dreaded no electronics for a week.
Then we can move to the action figures and trading cards. One kid had to have a $50 Pokeman card for the B-day last year. I saved it from a garbage bag on a clean up day after this Christmas. I have it now (kid doesn't know & I was so P.O'ed at the time I didn't tell). Maybe I should have several, many more, clean up days, just in their rooms. Maybe that will get me close or over $450.
Still don't think I would buy the E'72. Unless I didn't open it. Bet I could get two-thousand on Amazon in a year.
I should get a late night infomercial, 'How to Get Rich Quick on your Kids Left Overs and Screwing Dheads! Only $99.99 for 8 Cassette Tapes and a Map of my Home State!'
See how it all keeps rolling into one big money ball.

Kids! Kids! Time to wake up and get cleanin' for the man!

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Poster: deyzof49 Date: Jan 20, 2011 4:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

My 10 year old daughter was amused to hear you folks thinking about selling your kids toys. We got pokemon cards, pokemon figures, pokemon balls, about 100 My Little Ponies, Little Pony play sets, Littlest Pet Shop play sets, over 100 Littlest Pets, about 40 DS games and now an X Box 360 Kinect and a growing collection of X Box games. That's why I'm broke and still haven't bought a sunburst Gibson J200. Been hoping to these last 40 years.
When i told her about the new release she said "Awesome, Stickers".

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jan 20, 2011 1:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

Who knows, AltheaRose...buy this set now, and it could fund part of your kid's college education a few years down the road...

(The complete Fillmore West '69 set is selling for $1000 now, and that was a 10,000-copy edition of a 10-CD set.)

Of course, it'll be worth more if you don't actually OPEN or LISTEN to any of it - but hey, that'll be part of the parental sacrifice for college!

This post was modified by light into ashes on 2011-01-20 09:41:29

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jan 20, 2011 1:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

Never thought of it that way. But after seeing how many folks are eager to spend $450 now, you may be right ... forget the college funds, I should invest in GD Box Sets. (The trouble is, would it lose its value if I listened to it?)

This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2011-01-20 09:45:43

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 20, 2011 4:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

The new Fillmore boxes are going for $1000 at amazon.com, however there are used ones there as well and they are going for $250. You get to use the discs and get a 150% return? Thats a hell of a lot better than my kids 529 accounts are doing and they don't play any music!

Not sure i would equate my right to make a hobby purchase to my kids. I think i have earned the right to make purchases. When they get a job, they will too. They get this and do offer to do extras around the house if they can earn some money to save for that next video game.

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Jan 20, 2011 10:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

I have an unused Fillmore boxset. It was opened only to make sure that all of those disks were in the carton.

4/24/72 has already been released as Rockin on the Rhine. Most of 4/26/72 is called Hudred Year Hall and Dick's extra bonus disk circulates on the torrent sites...

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 20, 2011 11:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

Don't think of it that way. I speak from experience. In the early 80s I just had to have a Persian rug, did lots of research, and eventually bought a really good one. Gorgeous and a great investment too. And then, a couple of years later, the Khomeini dude took over in Iran and the market totally changed. I was able to get less than 50c on the buck when I sold it. So, only buy something that you would want and love anyway - otherwise fuggedaboudit. IMHO of course.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jan 20, 2011 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

Who knows what Rhino may do next year...maybe they'll announce a $220 edition without the trunk & book etc....or maybe they'll offer the individual shows....then all the early buyers will be kicking themselves!

I'm just going by what happened with the Fillmore West box. Dead.net has a history of making a lot of music available only to select early buyers.

Personally I feel money shouldn't be that big a concern since people can most likely just copy the discs, sell it again & get at least their money back, even for a 'used' set. But you're right, it's a gamble - further developments at dead.net might scuttle that plan!

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Poster: deyzof49 Date: Jan 20, 2011 5:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

I travelled East overland a couple of times in the early 70's. In Iran they used to lay the carpets out on the street and in the middle of the road. Nothing like feet and traffic to give a Persian carpet that antique look.

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Poster: ducats Date: Jan 20, 2011 4:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

literally + figuretively (sp?) !!!!!!!

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Poster: portmcgroin Date: Jan 20, 2011 4:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Real Reason not to get the 72 Release

Hey thats an idea I should sell some of my kids toys to help pay for this, they never play with them anyway.

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